比卢普斯:05年总决赛邓肯拿了FMVP 但吉诺比利也能很容易拿到
直播吧4月2日讯 开拓者今天在客场对阵马刺。赛前,开拓者主教练比卢普斯谈到了吉诺比利将入选名人堂的话题。
“我们在2005年总决赛抢七大战中不敌马刺。邓肯是总决赛MVP,但吉诺比利也能很容易拿到FMVP。在他们赢球的大多数比赛中,他一直打出正确的篮球,击败了我们。”比卢普斯说道。
据名记Shams昨日报道,消息人士透露,马刺名宿吉诺比利将入选2022届奈史密斯篮球名人堂。
2005年总决赛的系列赛中,邓肯场均得到20.6分14.1篮板2.1助攻2.1盖帽;吉诺比利场均得到18.7分6.0篮板4.0助攻1.3抢断。
(Bleach)
06年总决赛韦德天神下凡 当年总决赛被操控了吗?
Down 2-0, Dwyane Wade averaged 39/8/4 to win 4 straight and give the Heat their first NBA title.
2006年总决赛热火0-2落后之后,韦德场均39+8+4带领热火拿到第一个总冠军。
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[–]Kobe_is_the_goat824 2042 points 17 hours ago
Ya and he was only in his 3rd season which is even more inane
而且这才是他第三个赛季哦。
[–]Buckscroationsensation7 105 points 14 hours ago
3rd season in the league yes, but you have to remember he elected to forgo his senior year at Marquette and enter the 2003 NBA draft. He was already a junior in college when he got drafted. So he was a little bit of an older rookie and he was 24 years old at the time of that championship run. For example, LeBron was only 21 at the time. 3 years makes a huge difference in the NBA.
Not taking anything away from Wade. Just saying. Carrying a team and winning a championship at 24 years old is still phenomenal.
Giannis is 24 right now and this is his 6th year in the league. Lol
雄鹿球迷:确实是第三个赛季,但是你需要知道当他被选中的时候已经大三了,所以他是一个大龄新秀,实际上他24岁才拿总冠军,举个例子,勒布朗当年才21岁,3年实际上NBA已经换了一片新天地了。
当然我也不是当杠精啦,当然以24岁的年纪带领球队并且赢得总冠军依然是不可思议的。
字母哥现在也24岁,不过他在联盟已经打了6个赛季了。
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[–]HeatSmokingFrog 140 points 18 hours ago
Wade w/o the injuries for sure would've ended as a top 10 player of all time.
热火球迷:韦德如果没有伤病将是毫无疑问的历史前十。
[–]Pelicanserldn123 221 points 18 hours ago
For sure is a bit rich. Considering the bottom end of the top 10 is usually Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, Hakeem.
I don't think Wade beats out any of them regardless of his injuries.
鹈鹕球迷:毫无疑问这个词太假了,考虑到前十守门员是沙克、科比、邓肯、奥拉朱旺这样的人,前十太假。
我不觉得韦德能在这些人手中拿到历史前十。
[–]WizardsNoNoir 400 points 18 hours ago*
Wow, that is an extremely hot take. Wade before he turned 30 had one ring and one all-timer season and that's about it.
Then 2 more titles as the clear second guy, and by then he's already 33. Even without injuries, his style of game was never going to have great longevity.
奇才球迷:这特么又是争议话题了,实际上韦德在30岁之前只有一个总冠军戒指以及一个赛季的最佳一阵。
然后两个赛季的冠军(二当家身份),然后他就33了,即使没有伤病,以他的比赛风格似乎也打不了这么长时间的比赛吧。
[–]Kingstruwarier14 254 points 16 hours ago
He was injured even before coming to the NBA. Dude basically had no knees his whole career.
国王球迷:他在进入NBA之前就受伤了,这家伙一整个职业生涯都没膝盖。
[–]WizardsNoNoir 120 points 16 hours ago*
He had surgery in 2007 and still managed to put up 30/5/7 on insane usage a year later. How much better could he have realistically been?
He had a very similar statistical progression to Pippen and I think that makes sense.
奇才球迷:他2007年做了一次手术,但是一年后还是以很高的使用率砍下30+5+7,如果没受伤他有多强?
我觉得他实际上和皮蓬的数据成长曲线差不多,所以我觉得讨论一下这个话题还是有道理的。
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[–]MavericksJeremyJammDDS 285 points 17 hours ago
I can believe that stat line. I remember watching it live
独行侠球迷:我还是很相信这个数据的,毕竟当年我看了全场直播(难受)。
[–]MavericksMeneRocks 91 points 15 hours ago
I punched a hole in my living room wall after game 5. I patched it up before my parents came home. They're still mad about it. Lol
独行侠球迷:当年看完第五场我气得把我家客厅的强锤了一个大洞,当然这是在我父母不在家的时候锤的,他们到现在还为此耿耿于怀哈哈哈。
[–]NBAClutch_ 1245 points 18 hours ago
Free throw attempts during those last 4 games : 18, 9, 25, 21
Not that that takes away from it, but if it was Harden getting that many attempts, people would riot.
Also fun fact - Cuban contemplated selling the team after that series because he thought it was rigged.
最后四场罚球数——18,9,25,21
当然并非杠精,但是如果哈登得到这么多罚球,大家肯定又开始充满快活的批判气息了。
还有一个有趣的事实——库班在这轮系列赛输掉之后准备卖掉球队的,因为他觉得NBA被操控了。
[–]Pelicanserldn123 688 points 18 hours ago
It definitely looked rigged, I think pretty lucky for Wade it happened back then, if it happened in todays social media era you have to think the ref narrative becomes a much bigger part of it.
Whereas now most people don't really remember and just see the boxscore stats.
It was a great finals by Wade, but yeah, it was very similar to the stuff people demolish Harden for.
鹈鹕球迷:毫无疑问,它被操控了。韦德应该为这轮系列赛发生在过去感到庆幸,如果发生在现在,以现在的社交媒体大家都会认为你能成功不过是裁判操控而已。
而现在很多人都不记得当时发生什么了,只记得一些比分栏了。
当然对于韦德而言这轮总决赛很棒,但是同样这些罚球和人们如今摧毁哈登的那些造罚球是类似的。
[–]Pacershadesscion 128 points 15 hours ago
The only series I've seen that was more obviously rigged was Kings/Lakers. I still feel bad for Kings fans.
步行者球迷:我见过唯一一个被操控得很明显的系列赛是国王打湖人的系列赛,我依然为国王粉丝感到遗憾。
[–][OKC] Russell Westbrookmongoosepepsi 191 points 15 hours ago
Watch all 6 games again. The fouls were so ridiculous, it cowed Dallas from playing serious ball, and Wade was able to just keep charging at the basket. Doesn't take away what he achieved, but it wasn't without help.
雷霆球迷:我又看了当年这六场总决赛,犯规真的不可思议得多,这让小牛不得不在防守端非常谨慎,韦德可以一直冲击篮筐,当然我并不是否定他的成就,但是没有这些帮助确实不太行。
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[–][DAL] Dennis SmithMysteriagant 324 points 18 hours ago
If only it was fair
独行侠球迷:如果公平的话……
[–][DAL] Steve Nashaceofspadez138 410 points 18 hours ago
Saying the 06 Finals were rigged gets met with a lot of mixed sentiments. I think Dirk summed it up best:
"A lot of things happened in that series that don't sit well with me. Even now. But the less I say is probably better."
独行侠球迷:
说06年总决赛被操控真是让我五味杂陈啊,我觉得德克总结得很棒:
“那轮系列赛发生了很多,很多东西即使到现在都让我坐立不安,但关于那轮总决赛,我说得还是越少越好吧。”
[–]Heatairus92 178 points 17 hours ago
If it was rigged, they did a terrible job at it, since Dirk was two free throws away from making it 3-0. Did the refs call that foul with the assumption he'd miss them both?
热火球迷:如果真的被操控了,那裁判们的操控做的可真糟糕啊,因为德克如果命中那两个罚球他们就3-0领先了,裁判吹这个判罚的时候能想到德克两罚不中?